Legislature(2009 - 2010)CAPITOL 106

02/23/2010 05:15 PM House ECON. DEV., TRADE & TOURISM


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05:16:31 PM Overview(s): Strengthening the Alaskan Economy - the Ketchikan Shipyard, by Douglas Ward, Director of Shipyard Development, Alaska Ship & Drydock.
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Overview: The Ketchikan Shipyard
Update: Alaska Maritime Workforce
Development, Building of the M/V MatSu
and Future Prospects
Presentations by: Douglas Ward, Director
of Shipyard Development, Alaska Ship &
Drydock, Inc.; Admiral Tom Barrett,
Deputy Federal Coordinator, Office of the
Federal Coordinator for Alaska Natural
Gas Transportation Projects
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
 HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INTERNATIONAL                                                               
                       TRADE AND TOURISM                                                                                      
                       February 23, 2010                                                                                        
                           5:16 p.m.                                                                                            
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jay Ramras, Chair                                                                                                
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Mark Neuman                                                                                                      
Representative Harry Crawford                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Chenault                                                                                                    
Representative Nancy Dahlstrom                                                                                                  
Representative Kyle Johansen                                                                                                    
Representative Lindsey Holmes                                                                                                   
Representative Chris Tuck                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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OVERVIEW(S):   STRENGTHENING THE ALASKAN ECONOMY  - THE KETCHIKAN                                                               
SHIPYARD~  BY DOUGLAS  WARD~  DIRECTOR  OF SHIPYARD  DEVELOPMENT~                                                               
ALASKA  SHIP  &  DRYDOCK;  ADMIRAL TOM  BARRETT,  DEPUTY  FEDERAL                                                               
COORDINATOR,  OFFICE  OF  THE   FEDERAL  COORDINATOR  FOR  ALASKA                                                               
NATURAL GAS TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DOUG WARD, Director of Shipyard Development                                                                                     
Alaska Ship & Drydock (ASD)                                                                                                     
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave a presentation on the Ketchikan                                                                     
Shipyard.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ADMIRAL TOM BARRETT, U.S. Coast Guard Retired; Deputy Federal                                                                   
Coordinator                                                                                                                     
Office of the Federal Coordinator                                                                                               
Alaska Natural Gas Transportation Projects                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  during   the   hearing   on                                                             
Strengthening the Alaskan Economy.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DAVID SCOTT, Staff                                                                                                              
Representative Kyle Johansen                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Answered questions  during the  hearing on                                                             
Strengthening the Alaskan Economy.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:16:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR JAY RAMRAS  called the House Special  Committee on Economic                                                             
Development, International Trade and  Tourism meeting to order at                                                               
5:16  p.m.   Representatives  Ramras, Crawford,  and Neuman  were                                                               
present at  the call to  order.  Representative Joule  arrived as                                                               
the meeting was in progress.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:16:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW(S):  STRENGTHENING THE  ALASKAN ECONOMY - THE KETCHIKAN                                                               
SHIPYARD,  BY DOUGLAS  WARD,  DIRECTOR  OF SHIPYARD  DEVELOPMENT,                                                               
ALASKA SHIP & DRYDOCK.                                                                                                          
OVERVIEW(S):  STRENGTHENING THE ALASKAN ECONOMY - THE KETCHIKAN                                                             
  SHIPYARD, BY DOUGLAS WARD, DIRECTOR OF SHIPYARD DEVELOPMENT,                                                              
                     ALASKA SHIP & DRYDOCK.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
5:16:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS  announced the  first order of  business would  be a                                                               
presentation  by Doug  Ward,  Director  of Shipyard  Development,                                                               
Alaska Ship & Drydock, on the Ketchikan Shipyard.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:17:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUG  WARD,  Director  of Shipyard  Development,  Alaska  Ship  &                                                               
Drydock (ASD), informed the committee  that Alaska Ship & Drydock                                                               
is  striving to  provide not  only cost  reductions for  Alaska's                                                               
marine  transportation  system,  but  to  help  Southeast  Alaska                                                               
recover from the  collapse of the timber industry and  to form an                                                               
industrial  base  in  Ketchikan  that will  allow  the  state  to                                                               
participate   in  energy   projects   and  resource   development                                                               
projects.    The  Ketchikan  Shipyard  is  owned  by  the  Alaska                                                               
Industrial  Development   &  Export   Authority  (AIDEA)   in  an                                                               
effective public  and private  partnership between  AIDEA, Alaska                                                               
Ship  & Drydock  (ASD), and  the City  and Borough  of Ketchikan.                                                               
Mr.   Ward  described   the  effectiveness   of  the   successful                                                               
partnership in that AIDEA is  fulfilling its mission and, through                                                               
the revenue  sharing agreement, ASD  is helping  AIDEA contribute                                                               
to the general fund.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS  urged the representative  from AIDEA to  schedule a                                                               
House  Special Committee  on Economic  Development, International                                                               
Trade and  Tourism meeting  to hear  success stories  about AIDEA                                                               
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:20:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WARD  recalled that the  Ketchikan shipyard was built  by the                                                               
state  to help  reduce the  cost of  operating the  Alaska Marine                                                               
Highway System  (AMHS), and  to provide  economic diversification                                                               
for the state by the addition  of an industrial base for advanced                                                               
manufacturing.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease for technical difficulties.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. WARD  continued his presentation  and said that  planning for                                                               
the shipyard  began in  the late 1970's  to repatriate  the funds                                                               
spent  to  maintain  and  operate  AMHS  ships.    Ketchikan  was                                                               
selected  for  the  shipyard  because  of  its  location  on  the                                                               
shipping  route, its  proximity  to Seattle,  and its  protected,                                                               
deep  water port  at Ward  Cove.   Furthermore, Ketchikan  is the                                                               
traditional industrial  and transportation hub of  Southeast.  At                                                               
the opening  of the  shipyard in  1987, planners  recognized that                                                               
the facility  would become the AMHS  winter maintenance facility,                                                               
but would  also need capacity for  other ship works.   One aspect                                                               
of  ship  repair  in  Alaska  is that  it  is  a  countercyclical                                                               
industry, thus  in the  fall it creates  a wintertime  demand for                                                               
employment.    Since  last  year through  this  spring,  ASD  has                                                               
performed $9 million of AMHS  repair work resulting in savings to                                                               
the state of $3.5 million over work done in Seattle.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:27:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS  asked  whether  there was  there  a  real  savings                                                               
realized-beyond savings  for transportation costs-over  the price                                                               
of work done in Seattle.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. WARD  reminded the  committee the  shipyard must  compete for                                                               
federal, AMHS, and other commercial  projects.  For example, last                                                               
February  the  M/V  Lituya  broke loose  from  its  moorings  and                                                               
required  repairs  to  its  hull   plating.    The  repairs  were                                                               
estimated at $450,000, and he said  the shipyard won the bid over                                                               
Seattle shipyards on  a "straight up basis."   Another example is                                                               
the  construction  of  the new  Ketchikan  International  Airport                                                               
ferry  because  ASD's  bid  of $6  million  saved  the  Ketchikan                                                               
borough about $1 million.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:29:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS questioned the accuracy of the estimate.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:29:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WARD explained ASD could build  the ferry for $1 million less                                                               
because it  understands the procurement  practices of  the state,                                                               
understands  the logistics,  and  has  a multi-skilled,  globally                                                               
competitive workforce that  is more productive than  those in the                                                               
Lower  48.   A third  example  was the  Chevron Legacy  refueling                                                               
station built for  Chevron Canada.  Delivered in  November, it is                                                               
in-service and  can be seen  during the television  broadcasts of                                                               
the  Olympic Winter  Games from  Vancouver, Canada.   This  was a                                                               
fairly  complex barge  project involving  many  fuels and  safety                                                               
measures.   Mr. Ward  stressed the barge  is registered  with the                                                               
"Made in  Alaska" trademark, and it  is one of the  few Jones Act                                                               
vessels the U.S. has exported in  the last 50-60 years.  In fact,                                                               
the U.S.  shipbuilding industry  exports less  than 1  percent of                                                               
the  global  demand  for  commercial  ships.    The  shipbuilding                                                               
industry is  successful in  the export  of military  vessels, but                                                               
not in  the commercial  market.   Mr. Ward  said the  state, like                                                               
Ketchikan, should be proud  of exporting complicated manufactured                                                               
products into the world market.   He then called attention to the                                                               
M/V  Susitna, another  "Made  in Alaska"  project,  which is  the                                                               
ferry that will operate  between Anchorage, the Matanuska-Susitna                                                               
Borough, Tyonek,  and Kenai.   The  ferry is  an Office  of Naval                                                               
Research demonstrator vessel designed as  part of the U.S. Navy's                                                               
forward Seabasing Initiative that  will have very large, floating                                                               
structures  stationed  100  nautical  miles offshore.    The  M/V                                                               
Susitna is  designed as the  "truck" that will carry  marines and                                                               
tanks  from the  stations through  the surf  and onto  the shore.                                                               
Mr. Ward  described many of  the capabilities and  the innovative                                                               
design-build  engineering of  the vessel;  in fact,  it has  been                                                               
described as "the most complicated  ship to have been designed in                                                               
100 years."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:36:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN asked for the cost.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:36:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WARD said  the cost was $70 million.   In further response to                                                               
Representative  Neuman,  he  said  the ship  was  very  expensive                                                               
compared  to other  ferries.   A lot  of the  cost went  into the                                                               
concept design, hull  design, and the geometry  and mechanisms to                                                               
change configurations to meet military  and sea trial benchmarks.                                                               
The business model  was to take military  technology and transfer                                                               
it into commercial markets.  By  building the ship in Alaska, ASD                                                               
is learning  innovative and advanced manufacturing  practices and                                                               
building a "purpose-built"  tough ship that will  work in Alaska,                                                               
and  demonstrate  unique  and  new  capabilities  in  the  marine                                                               
transportation market.  Mr.  Ward concluded the commercialization                                                               
of  the technologies  surrounding  the ship  will  give Alaska  a                                                               
"leg-up"  on developing  new  vessels  and marine  transportation                                                               
systems.   Several  slides of  a PowerPoint  presentation titled,                                                               
"The  Ketchikan  Shipyard"  showed  the  ship  in  its  different                                                               
configurations  and  he  pointed   out  that  the  ship  achieves                                                               
stability   at  high   speeds  because   its  flotation   remains                                                               
underwater.   However, to  unload cargo on  the beach,  the cargo                                                               
deck  is lowered  and the  draft of  the vessel  is reduced  from                                                               
thirteen feet to three feet.   In Alaska, the ability to load and                                                               
unload on the beach means  services can be delivered to villages,                                                               
communities,  and sites  on the  Arctic  Ocean that  do not  have                                                               
shore-side facilities.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Further, ASD manufactured pieces and  parts for the ship that are                                                               
similar to those  needed for the off-shore oil  and gas industry;                                                               
for example,  ASD has  an in-line  boring machine-the  largest on                                                               
the West  Coast-that is now  ready to  work on large  projects in                                                               
the oil and gas industry.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:41:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WARD displayed  slide  8  that showed  the  assembly of  the                                                               
Chevron  Legacy modules  on the  lot.   He pointed  out that  the                                                               
shipyard  has the  capability to  lift 250  foot long,  2,500 ton                                                               
ships out of  the water and into enclosed repair  halls.  He then                                                               
turned  to  the  construction  of the  airport  ferry  that  will                                                               
transport passengers and cars to  and from the Ketchikan airport.                                                               
Delivery  of the  ferry  will be  in  the spring  of  2011.   The                                                               
shipyard is  also building AmphibAlaska,  which is  an amphibious                                                               
truck  that  was  designed  in   Ketchikan,  and  is  capable  of                                                               
traveling 25  miles per hour on  land and 30 knots  in the water.                                                               
The  U.S. Army  Corps  of Engineers  and  the U.S.  Environmental                                                               
Protection  Agency  are interested  in  this  working vessel  for                                                               
beach   erosion   surveys,    airport   rescue,   and   fisheries                                                               
restoration.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS,  to  illustrate the  export  potential  of  marine                                                               
craft, informed  the committee that  Allen Marine of  Sitka built                                                               
25 ferries  that were used in  New York to replace  the collapsed                                                               
subway system after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:44:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WARD displayed  slide 11  that  was a  schedule of  shipyard                                                               
career paths  and major  processes to  develop a  local workforce                                                               
educated and trained in  shipbuilding and advanced manufacturing.                                                               
He  opined the  biggest strides  to make  in productivity  are to                                                               
increase  the  skills of  laborers,  and  to establish  a  stable                                                               
multi-skilled workforce  in Ketchikan to build  and repair ships.                                                               
Infrastructure  is not  helpful  without workers  who can  think,                                                               
reason, and understand  the purpose of their tasks.   He provided                                                               
a short history of the  U.S. shipbuilding industry and efforts to                                                               
strengthen the industry through  skill standards developed by the                                                               
National  Shipbuilding  Research  Program (NSRP).    Research  in                                                               
Japan and  other countries revealed that  shipyards complete ship                                                               
construction, conversion,  and repair through  corrosion control,                                                               
structural,   mechanical,  and   electrical   services.     These                                                               
processes are  achieved by  workers using  fabrication, assembly,                                                               
installation, and testing.  ASD  organized this research with the                                                               
intention to  take a new,  nontraditional, Alaskan  workforce and                                                               
teach skills  that are common  to shipbuilding and  other trades.                                                               
After  two years,  workers  move on  to  production training  and                                                               
learn  a  variety  of  skills.   In  addition,  ASD  is  using  a                                                               
"training  within  industry"  methodology developed  during  WWII                                                               
that actively  recruits women  and minorities.   Slide  12 showed                                                               
highly  skilled welders  at  work.   Mr.  Ward  gave examples  of                                                               
successful training experiences  for some of ASD's  workers.  The                                                               
ASD  workforce reflects  the demographics  of  Ketchikan with  30                                                               
percent  minority  hire.    Slide   13  showed  the  location  of                                                               
Ketchikan in  the North American  hemisphere.  He  concluded that                                                               
Ketchikan builds  purpose-built vessels to operate  in the Arctic                                                               
Ocean  and  the North  Pacific,  and  works to  support  Alaska's                                                               
upcoming   energy    and   resource   projects    with   advanced                                                               
manufacturing.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:52:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN asked about training.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:52:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WARD noted  that ASD  is focused  on structured,  on-the-job                                                               
training that  does not take place  in the classroom, but  in the                                                               
workplace, where learning is more effective.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS spoke  of the lack of covered working  areas to deal                                                               
with 150 inches of annual rainfall  in Ketchikan.  He inquired as                                                               
to what role Ketchikan could play in building Arctic-ready ships                                                                
if it can  demonstrate it is globally competitive  from a quality                                                               
and cost standpoint.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:55:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WARD responded ASD is  reframing its 1999 development plan in                                                               
light  of the  addition of  $38  million in  new Federal  Transit                                                               
Administration (FTA)  funds.  Members of  ASD management recently                                                               
toured  other   shipyards  to  gauge  large   ship  assembly  and                                                               
production halls.   The next phase of development at  ASD will be                                                               
a very large  assembly hall and production line.   He opined this                                                               
will create a globally  competitive infrastructure; however, just                                                               
as important as  infrastructure is how the ships are  built.  ASD                                                               
has  a  detailed  plan  to  build ships  that  will  be  globally                                                               
competitive; in fact,  ASD anticipates the assembly  line will be                                                               
operating  in  time to  bid  for  the $120  million  Alaska-Class                                                               
ferry, and  to build a fleet  of modern ships to  support the new                                                               
industry along the outer continental shelf.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:58:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS asked  whether ASD  has  the capacity  to grow  and                                                               
accommodate large orders,  such as 100 amphibious  trucks.  Also,                                                               
he inquired  as to the effect  of a large order  on the company's                                                               
employment base.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:59:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WARD responded that ASD now  has 170 workers; within 10 years                                                               
after the "build-out"  of its development plan,  ASD will support                                                               
306 direct ship building and  repair jobs, and 200 indirect jobs,                                                               
in Ketchikan.  Nationwide, 1,100  permanent jobs will result from                                                               
this investment.   He  advised that these  jobs will  replace the                                                               
jobs lost by  the closure of the  pulp mill.  In  fact, the ships                                                               
under construction now are the  economic engine that will attract                                                               
new investment and new vendors to support shipyard activity.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:00:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS  asked whether the  development of the  shipyard was                                                               
tied to the presence of Mr. Ward.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
6:01:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WARD assured  the committee that succession  planning is part                                                               
of ASD's  plan.  The company  continues to recruit for  skills in                                                               
management,  administration,  and engineering.    He  spoke of  a                                                               
future  grant  to  partner  with  the high  school  and  its  new                                                               
advanced  manufacturing center.    The high  school program  uses                                                               
software  that will  attract young  people to  engineering, green                                                               
science, and ocean engineering.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
6:02:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS  asked about  the demographics  of the  workforce at                                                               
ASD.                                                                                                                            
6:03:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WARD  advised that the  workforce of ASD will  always reflect                                                               
the demographics  of Ketchikan and  Alaska.  However,  the global                                                               
shipbuilding industry  is overcapitalized, and ASD  receives many                                                               
job  applications from  outside  Alaska.   ASD  may  hire a  good                                                               
candidate  who  is  willing  to  move  to  Ketchikan  and  mentor                                                               
apprentices.   Of ASD's 170  employees, 30 percent  are minority.                                                               
Vendors are happy with the  dedication of ASD's workers and there                                                               
is no tension between outside vendors and shipyard workers.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
6:06:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS  announced  that   the  committee  would  now  hear                                                               
testimony from  Admiral Tom Barrett, Deputy  Federal Coordinator,                                                               
Office  of  the  Federal  Coordinator   for  Alaska  Natural  Gas                                                               
Transportation Projects.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADMIRAL  TOM BARRETT,  U.S. Coast  Guard Retired;  Deputy Federal                                                               
Coordinator, Office  of the  Federal Coordinator,  Alaska Natural                                                               
Gas  Transportation Projects,  described  his  background in  the                                                               
Coast  Guard  and  in  private  and  public  service  related  to                                                               
pipeline safety and  transportation.  He expressed  his belief in                                                               
the natural gas  pipeline project and his  interest in supporting                                                               
the economic development of the state.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:09:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS described  Admiral Barrett's  trip to  Ketchikan to                                                               
visit the shipyard.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
6:09:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADMIRAL  BARRETT stated  that  the pipeline  is  not a  "corridor                                                               
issue up  in the north,"  but has implications  and opportunities                                                               
for industrial capabilities  statewide.  It is  important for his                                                               
office  to review  capabilities  around the  state,  such as  the                                                               
shipyard  in Ketchikan,  relative to  the gas  line project.   He                                                               
expressed  his interest  in  workforce issues  as  they are  also                                                               
enormously important  to the project  and to the state.   Admiral                                                               
Barrett  advised   that  the  Alaska  Works   Partnership,  Inc.,                                                               
Pipeline  Training Center  in Fairbanks  is "a  very solid  step"                                                               
toward getting a workforce capable  of working effectively in the                                                               
oil and gas industry.  The  state must attract, train, and retain                                                               
a qualified  workforce.  Furthermore,  the Arctic region  will be                                                               
of interest for  the next 20-50 years with  developments in ocean                                                               
engineering, marine  engineering, and shipping.   Admiral Barrett                                                               
reminded the  committee that the  M/V Susitna is  an Arctic-class                                                               
vessel  built to  operate in  cold weather,  ice, and  cold water                                                               
conditions.    The  vessel  must  also  deal  with  moving  heavy                                                               
equipment  in  shallow conditions,  and  rivers,  and to  coastal                                                               
communities  without  docks.    At the  shipyard  he  observed  a                                                               
variety  of  work such  as  the  construction of  new,  high-tech                                                               
ships, ship  repair on the M/V  Lituya and M/V Taku,  ship repair                                                               
on  a  commercial fishing  vessel,  heavy  duty fabrication,  and                                                               
industrial fabrication.  He listed  details on the specifications                                                               
of the M/V Susitna and the methods of its construction.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:16:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADMIRAL  BARRETT  recognized  the   Ketchikan  shipyard  for  its                                                               
innovative  modular  construction  because that  is  "how  modern                                                               
shipyards  work."   The Ketchikan  shipyard  demonstrated:   high                                                               
quality  in construction  to tolerances  of 1/32  of an  inch, or                                                               
better;  the use  of  variable  strengths of  steel;  the use  of                                                               
stainless  steel; auto-welding;  involvement in  the design-build                                                               
of the  M/V Susitna; efficient  handling of  materials; efficient                                                               
logistics of  the two  dry docks; flexibility  of the  docks; and                                                               
the use  of a rail  system to move  ships to sheltered  areas for                                                               
work.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
6:20:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADMIRAL BARRETT,  returning to the  subject of a  workforce, said                                                               
he  heard  that  the  shipyard  has  partnered  with  the  school                                                               
district  to  bring  back  welding at  the  high  school  through                                                               
apprenticeships.   He encouraged  further partnering  between the                                                               
education  system and  business.   Lastly,  he  relayed that  the                                                               
attention  to  quality  at  the  shipyard  was  good.    Shipyard                                                               
operators and customers require this  to save costs and avoid re-                                                               
work.    Admiral  Barrett  concluded   that  the  shipyard  is  a                                                               
learning,  growing activity  with some  great skill  sets, and  a                                                               
strategy to move  forward.  In general, shipyards  need a balance                                                               
of  government  contract  work   and  commercial  work,  and  the                                                               
Ketchikan shipyard  appears to be  adaptive to the  future market                                                               
environment.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:24:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS  agreed and asked  for the Admiral's opinion  on the                                                               
future of the Arctic, and  Alaska's strategic relationship to the                                                               
Arctic as the nearest Arctic port.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
6:25:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADMIRAL  BARRETT stated  that  because the  Arctic  is an  ocean,                                                               
firstly,   there  are   maritime  issues,   and  secondly,   more                                                               
activities are taking place.   There are also enormous energy and                                                               
fish resources and  a growing interest in tourism.   In addition,                                                               
indigenous people  have a presence  in the Arctic  with cultural,                                                               
well-being, and  security issues.  Opportunities  for development                                                               
must  simultaneously  protect  the  environment  and  the  Native                                                               
people.     Admiral  Barrett  cautioned   that  there   are  many                                                               
misconceptions  about the  Arctic and  about open  water.   Ocean                                                               
melting means there  is less ice, but vessels  will still operate                                                               
in ice  for environmental responses  and oil spill recovery.   It                                                               
is important to be adaptive, with  Alaska at the epicenter of the                                                               
convergence of tough issues and opportunities for the U.S.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:29:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADMIRAL  BARRETT,  in  further response  to  Chair  Ramras,  said                                                               
interest  in  the  Arctic will  steadily  increase  for  decades,                                                               
although  the initial  interest in  transportation is  related to                                                               
energy.  However, Canadian authorities  have reported an increase                                                               
in   small  passenger   vessels  transiting   to  the   Northwest                                                               
Territories.   He  warned  that the  U.S. will  not  be alone  in                                                               
energy development in the Beaufort Sea.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:30:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS asked for information regarding Arctic-class ships.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:31:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADMIRAL  BARRETT was  unable to  provide specific  information on                                                               
this market; however, he said there  are many types of ships such                                                               
as  ice  holding  and  ice strengthening  for  tankers.    Arctic                                                               
vessels  will  vary with  the  type  of  ship; in  fact,  "Arctic                                                               
classing"  under international  standards is  tied to  a specific                                                               
type of  vessel.  Standards  are well-defined and  specific, thus                                                               
are different for  a general cargo barge and  a petroleum tanker.                                                               
The  market  for  Arctic  ships  is  growing,  and  although  the                                                               
Ketchikan  shipyard  will  not  be   able  to  build  a  drilling                                                               
platform, there will  be a market for smaller  vessels and ships.                                                               
Furthermore,  the experience  gained during  the construction  of                                                               
the M/V Susitna is valuable for this evolving market.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
6:35:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS asked how a shipyard develops a reputation.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:35:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADMIRAL BARRETT  opined reputation is driven  by repeat customers                                                               
and  products that  are  built on  time, on  budget,  and to  the                                                               
standards in  the specifications.   Shipyards build  a reputation                                                               
based on performance.   The reputation of  the Ketchikan shipyard                                                               
is evolving and he asked whether ASD surveys its customers.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
6:37:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WARD  reported  that  ASD's   largest  customer,  AMHS,  has                                                               
confidence in  the yard to repair  and build its vessels.   Also,                                                               
two panels of the NSRP visited  ASD and declared the welds on the                                                               
M/V Susitna were  superior.  ASD also received  good reports from                                                               
the environmental panel  of the same organization.   He expressed                                                               
his belief that ASD has a "pretty dog-gone good reputation."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADMIRAL  BARRETT  acknowledged   that  environmental  issues  are                                                               
important  to  a shipyard  and  to  his knowledge  the  Ketchikan                                                               
shipyard  had no  environmental  violations.   Another factor  of                                                               
reputation comes  in when bids are  for best value, and  not just                                                               
for the  lowest bid, because  a shipyard's performance  record is                                                               
considered in the award.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:41:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WARD added  that for the expansion of the  shipyard, AIDEA is                                                               
preparing an alternative  procurement process called Construction                                                               
Management  General   Contractor.    This   "special  experiment"                                                               
alternative  procurement process  takes  into account  reputation                                                               
and the  ability to meet  schedules and standards.   Furthermore,                                                               
he  understood that  the Department  of  Transportation &  Public                                                               
Facilities (DOT&PF)  will be using  a similar process  to solicit                                                               
bids for the construction of the Alaska-class ferry.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:43:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADMIRAL  BARRETT advised  that most  effective federal  contracts                                                               
have an incentive.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WARD,  on  behalf  of  the employees  of  ASD,  thanked  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS asked  what  the development  of  the shipyard  has                                                               
meant to the  displaced workers of Ketchikan after  the mill shut                                                               
down.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
6:45:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID SCOTT,  Staff, Representative  Kyle Johansen,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, opined  the jobs  created at ASD  bring pride  and a                                                               
sense of purpose to those who work there.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
6:46:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS then  asked how  an expansion  to 1,100  jobs would                                                               
affect the community of Ketchikan.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCOTT said  it would be like  the old days in  some ways, and                                                               
"more jobs are better."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:46:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special  Committee on  Economic Development,  International Trade                                                               
and Tourism meeting was adjourned at 6:46 p.m.                                                                                  

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